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Rockford, IL-2 23 2011- ProLifeCorner.com- Abortion Mill’s Svengali-Like Hold Continues Over Rockford City Officials. The Rockford Police and City Attorney’s office continue to respond to the wishes of the Northern Illinois Women’s Center in a mesmerizingly swift and effective way that has made offering help to mothers in need in Rockford very challenging.
Sometimes you have to give credit where credit is due. Abortion mill landlord Wayne Webster knows how to get public officials to do his bidding. From the unflinching support of Alderman Karen Elyea (and her onetime boyfriend who assaulted a pro-lifer) to enlisting the cooperation of the police, city attorney, and city works department to ensure the mobile ultrasound motorhome faces every difficulty in obtaining a parking place near the clinic. Mr. Webster seems to have the golden touch when it comes to getting the City of Rockford to help him get his job done on behalf of abortionist Dennis Christensen.
Here are just three of the unresolved situations pro-lifers believe are clear examples of the double standard we are facing:
1. In the Spring of 2010 a pro-lifer had a large sign of Jesus on his car near the entrance to the abortion mill. Mr. Webster briefly spoke with a police officer, and the police officer ordered the pro-lifer to remove the sign because the officer said no free standing signs are allowed on cars.
A few weeks later, when Mr. Webster had his car parked in the same spot where the pro-lifers car had been parked, he placed a sign on his car that said "Women Raped In Motorhome." Pro-lifers complained to the police and were told that signs were now suddenly allowed on cars!
2. In the summer of 2010, two abortion supporters made intentional physical contact with pro-lifers in an attempt to intimidate them. Both cases were recorded on video, but no charges were ever filed. Yet a pro-lifer was arrested for jay-walking and is presently being dragged through multiple court appearances to answer this bogus charge.
The interesting thing was that Mr. Webster walked across the same street where the pro-lifer was ticketed for jay-walking. He was walking across the street to put up a sign claiming a pro-lifers wife is whore. The police were asked to ticket him for crossing in the same place as the pro-lifer – no ticket was given.
3. A truck from Dach fencing came to the abortion mill to do some work for Mr. Webster. The truck driver asked a police officer if he could park in the no parking zone on 10th street to get his work done and was given permission by the police. The truck was parked in the no parking zone for at least two hours.
Because Mr. Webster has been parking cars throughout the abortion mill neighborhood to block the mobile ultrasound, and has even used a car to try to push a pro-lifer who was simply trying to help back the mobile ultrasound safely into an open parking place, pro-lifers have requested the same courtesy the police gave to Mr. Webster – the ability to park in a no parking zone for a limited period of time. This request was denied.
Pro-lifers continue to be perplexed by the Svengali-like hold the culture of death has over some public officials in Rockford.
We don’t have an answer to this continued double standard other than whatever hold abortion has on the City of Rockford, we know for certain that one day, if we remain faithful and persevere to the end, that hold will be broken by the love and grace of Jesus.
Note: An offer was made to both the city attorney’s office and Rockford police department to publicly respond to the above concerns. If a written response is given, it will be posted on this web site.
Mayor Morrissey Reaches Out To Pro-Life Community
Pro-lifers should know that Mayor Morrissey has reached out to the pro-life community and called for a meeting with members of the Rockford Pro-Life Initiative to see if some of these issues can be resolved. Mr. Morrissey was very congenial and seemed open to input from pro-life citizens. We are hoping this is a new beginning; a new spirit of honesty and openness, and more importantly, a problem-solving spirit that will hopefully flow from the mayor’s office on down into the other branches of the city government, including the police department. We are cautiously optimistic and ask for your prayers for all concerned parties, that they will come together in a spirit of community concern and responsibility.
The couple has a 4-year-old daughter. "When we went to the Catholic Church for the first time, we knew that was where we were supposed to be and we have been there ever since," said Johnson, who said she particularly loves the church’s reverence for Mary as the mother of God. "The more we started learning about the beliefs of the church and the Eucharist and everything, it seemed like this was what had been missing our whole lives." After eight years as a Planned Parenthood volunteer and employee, Johnson walked away from her job as director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Bryan/College Station, Texas, Oct. 6, 2009, during a prayer vigil by 40 Days for Life. Johnson, who had one abortion at age 20 and another at 23, first began working as a clinic escort while a student at Texas A&M University. Assisting with an ultrasound during an abortion in September 2009 turned her into a pro-life advocate. She describes the experience in her book "Unplanned: The Dramatic True Story of the Planned Parenthood Leader Who Crossed the Life Line to Fight for Women in Crisis," written with Cindy Lambert (Ignatius Press, 2011).
Nathanson at one time ran the busiest and most financially successfully abortion mill in America. He was a co-founder of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws, now called NARAL ProChoice America. As an abortionist he personally killed over 60,000 babies including one of his own children.
Note! We apologize for any inconvenience. YouTube pulled our video because they said it was "shocking and disgusting". We agree that abortion is shocking and disgusting; little babies should never under any circumstances be subjected to this barbaric, brutal, sadistic, procedure called abortion on demand. We re-present this video to you from Gloria TV, who has the courage to allow this video to appear unedited so that you, the viewer, can see the effects of abortion on demand, not only on the babies, but the dehumaizing effect of abortion on it’s supporters.
The essay below was written by a middle school student when she learned about what happens to mothers and children inside the Rockford abortion mill. This kind hearted, courageous, and intelligent young lady gives an example of compassion and clear thinking that is a model for us all.
We shouldn’t sacrifice others for ourselves, we should sacrifice ourselves for others.
When we made it legal to get abortions, we thought – sure its okay to kill the babies because they don’t feel anything – but babies are real people and they can feel things just like me or anyone else, and if we wouldn’t kill someone that was living and breathing that was standing right next to us, then why should we be able to kill an innocent baby inside a woman’s stomach just to make the woman’s life easier? Especially when it was your choice to get pregnant.
Abortion isn’t just something you do by accident, its something that you choose to do. You choose to kill your own child. African American abortions should especially not be done just because of the babies skin color.
When a woman is raped, we know it wasn’t her fault, but it still shouldn’t be a reason to kill a beautiful baby that could have a great life if she is allowed to live.
It is so cruel when we can get an abortion all the way up till when the baby is born. Some women are told or think that getting an abortion would make their lives better, do they think about how they are going to feel when they have to live with the fact that they killed a baby?
And when people ask why you had an abortion, you answer with "I had no choice". You had a choice, you just didn’t want to choose life.
Rockford, IL-2 19-2911-(ProLifeCorner.com) Three years after a most vile and bigoted tirade by an abortion supporter, that occurred at the Rockford, IL abortion mill (NIWC), nothing has been done. No action has been taken by city officials, the police, the media, or the black community to bring an end to this type of violence. Because this happened at an abortion center, the leaders of the community are turning a blind eye to a racist, hate-filled incident; an incident, that if it had happened in a decent community, would have been given front page paper and television coverage. We are asking why has nothing been done?
Why do city officials turn a blind eye? After you read the transcript and see the video linked below, you will certainly be moved to ask yourself the same question-why has nothing been done? Decent, responsible people would never, ever tolerate this kind of behavior. Read on and give us your opinion. If you are inclined to, respectfully contact proper city officials and politely ask why, after three years, they have refused to do anything about this most shameful and evil attack in Rockford.
Few if any cities in America have seen an open attack on and the killing of African American children in the womb such as Rockford has.
From rubber chickens hanging by nooses in the abortion mill window, to a clinic security guard trying to justify abortion by claiming "only nig…. and prostitutes come here"–meaning the abortion mill. http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2009/mar/09031609
We have had a man actually stop his pick-up truck and tell pro-lifers that we need abortion to "get rid of the nig….." The pure evil of this statement left pro-lifers speechless. http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2009/apr/09040310
One day in recent memory when this abortion mill was open, six of the first seven mothers to bring their children in to the clinic to be killed were African AmericanThe most disgusting and sustained attacks on life and hatred for African Americans you can see in this disgusting video below. This incident occurred almost three years ago; after all this time no action has been taken by the city of Rockford, the police department, the abortion mill, or even the black community to bring justice to this situation. This kind of filth and bigotry is commonplace at the abortion mill in Rockford, IL. It would appear that such actions are tolerated and no efforts seem to have been made to stop such actions. A supporter of the Northern Illinois Woman’s Center (who got smiles and thumbs up from the clinic workers) in this video below, goes on an almost insane tirade against children in the womb and African Americans.
Please note in the video how the abortion mill landlord is working with this racist by warning him the police are coming so he can get away and come back another time to continue his verbal assaults.
WARNING: What you are about to read will shock and sicken you. We have to ask why the Rockford police have allowed this hatred and these bigoted attacks to go on at the Rockford abortion mill for approximately six months; years longer involving other cases.
WARNING: This is the reality of abortion; bigotry, hatred, and violence. The founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, and many of her successors were and are racists. When you see and read what these pro-abortion supporters in Rockford, IL have to say, it is indeed sickening.
WARNING: To parents: do not allow children under 18 to see this written text or to hear what is on the upcoming video.
DANGER: Proceed with caution. WARNING: You are about to see the effect that abortion has on its supporters.
To see the Video : http://www.prolifecorner.com/node/61
Background Information on NIWC and Transcript of Video:
You, the reader, need a little background on the Rockford, IL abortion mill known as the Northern Illinois Women’s Center. It’s also know to some as Rockford’s Auschwitz (for the young, a death camp.) The building is owned by Wayne Webster, who likes to be involved by harassing pro-life demonstrators. This mill had been operated by a famous, now deceased, abortionist named Richard Ragsdale. Mr. Ragsdale had been responsible for anti-life legislation in Illinois and is well known on both sides of the abortion issue. A Dr. Christensen has stepped up to the plate, so to speak, and remains mainly in the background.
There are several dedicated pro-life Christians, from different Christian backgrounds, who have remained faithful over the years praying and doing sidewalk counseling at the Rockford mill. These courageous men and women should be commended for their perseverance and dedication to saving babies. Thank you and may God bless you for the work you have done and the insults and attacks you have suffered for the love of Christ. May the exposure of what goes on at the Rockford mill bring an end to these crimes against humanity.
Transcript abortion mill Rockford IL 3/29/08
It is very difficult to try to watch this video and transcribe the ravings of a hate-filled racist, anti-Catholic/Christian bigot. What is even more difficult is to try and follow verbatim his string of profanity. As one watches the video and compares it to the transcript you will find it to be accurate enough to indicate clearly to anyone that this man needs a healing, we just don’t know quite what kind of healing.
Conversations involve Eric, Kevin Rilott, an assailant named Keith Sterkeson, Wayne Webster owner of the abortion mill, and dialog with unknown police officers. (This document was transcribed by Frank Munda and comments noted are his.)
COMMENT: It is important to note that the dialog pulled from video clip DSCF 0850 was so intense that it cannot be appreciated unless viewed but know that the following blasphemous, racist hate speech occurred in slightly less than 10 minutes.
The racism is not an isolated incident at the abortion mill. It seems to be a creed that the pro-aborts live by.
Video clip # DSCF 0850:
Keith is crossing Broadway with his dog, he is still on the south side of Broadway and he’s yelling at Eric:
Keith Sterkeson: These fuckin people are psycho, they don’t have any f—in’ shit. They don’t know shit, they’re all fuckin’ psycho. Every last one of these fuckin’ degenerate trash mother fuckers. Everyone of these fuckin’ idiots. Take your fuckin’ pictures asshole, I got a right to be here too, fucknuts. (As he extends his middle finger to the camera and as he strikes the camera with his finger he says,”film that shithole”.)
Eric(the cameraman and victim of assault) says “You’re gonna make it on TV, pal”.
Keith: Shit, Cock, fuck, shit, degenerate, film that cocksucker. What’re you gonna do? Are you a nigger? Is your mommy a nigger? I’ll bet your mom got raped by a fuckin’ black dude. You’re a half-breed nigger aren’t cha? (As Keith is raving into the camera, he is so close to the wide angle lens you can see his spittle appear on the lens.)
Keith: You’re a half-breed nigger. That’s right, you’re a half-breed nigger. You’re a fuckin’ nigger. A nigger. A nigger. You are a worthless, degenerate nigger. Oh, you are a nigger. (Keith turns his attention to a woman who is about to abort her baby, while softly in the background Mr. Kevin Rilott is softly calling to the woman about to abort her baby not to do it.)
Keith: yells out to the woman: “You have a right to choose. This guy has no right to sit here and say this crap. He is a degenerate. He is a degenerate. I live in this neighborhood. We’re tired of these psychos. They’re frickin’ nuts. They’re total psychos. You’re doing the right thing and God will honor you. I believe in you Mom. (Keith finishes yelling at the mother.)
Time line, 1 min, 37 seconds.
(Keith turns his attention back to Eric, but continues to yell at the mother. “The doctors will take good care of you, unlike these degenerates.”)
Eric asks, “Can you define the term degenerate?”
Keith: Getting right in the camera says “You”. “You idiot-have you looked yourself in the mirror? Yeah, you, you. Yeah, I know, you’re a degenerate.
Eric asks “Then what are you, Keith?”
Keith: You are a degenerate. You are an empty skull thinking Jesus is gonna save you cause your’re tryin’ to save a kid. You’re so empty and stupid you still ain’t saving the kids. You fuckin’ idiot degenerate nigger. You’re mother was a nigger. You are a nigger.
Eric asked: “Do you have problems with black people?”
Keith: You’re a nigger. A half-breed nigger.
Time line: 2 min 21 sec
Keith: Only problem is with you smoking crack and bringing it into the neighborhood. Yeah, you’re smokin’ crack because only a crack head would do your psychin’, fuckin’ ways.
(Keith continues his ranting repeating half-breed nigger,fuckin’ degenerate, etc..)
Time Line 2 min 54 sec.
Eric asks: “Do you support abortion rights, sir?”
Keith: I support what the fuckin’ law says we can fuckin’ do and the law says we can kill your
fuckin’ kids. That’s what the law says.
Eric: Why do you support that?
Keith: (pointing to the chimney on an out building) time line 3 min 10 sec. That’s where they burn the babies
Eric zooms in on a chimney and asks, that chimney there?
Keith says: “They cook’em up real good, the bloody limbs. All the black smoke- the smell of baby napalm. Oh you gotta love it.
Eric: “do you like the smell of baby napalm in the morning?”
Keith: Oh, yeah. It gives me an erection. The smell of baby napalm. All the bloody limbs. Wow, yummy.
Eric: Did you take all night to think that up?
Keith: Yummy. I can go on before your fuckin’, shit asscamera runs out of film. Keep filmin’ boy. Take it home to your superior with the child-molesting fuckin’ Catholic religion. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah, the Catholic Diocese, the fuckin’ faggots that like raping little children, yeah, the Catholic Diocese raping little children. Oh, you don’t film that, do you, you fuckin’ shit hole. Take it to your Catholic Diocese. (Eric softly says, “OK I will”) The children-raping, fuckin’ filthy mother fuckers. What is it, raping children? What’s different, raping children or killing them? You people are fuckin’ twisted. (Keith continues rambling his anti-Catholic hate speech)
(Time line 4 min 55sec )
Keith continues as he says to Eric: “You fuckin’ queer “ Keith turns, walks toward Eric’s camera, points to the abortion mill and says “See, there’s cameras up there too.”
Keith boldly proclaims “What the fuck the cops gonna do? “
Keith yells at a car as it pulls in: “Don’t listen to these degenerates.”
Another car comes in to kill their baby. Keith thinks that Eric’s name is Jordan. Keith says to Eric “Are you about ready to lose another one, Jordan?” Eric says “I want to ask you something. Why are you so angry?”
Keith says “You’re the fucken angry one. You don’t leave this doctor alone. I just heard you yelling you fucking degenerate across the fucking street you fucking idiot.
Time Line: 5 min 52 sec
Keith turns his attention to the people that just drove in the abortion mill parking lot. He yells “Hey, these abortion protesters are fucking degenerates. They’re trash. You’re doing the right thing, mom and God will honor you. You’re doing the right thing-God will honor you. Don’t listen to these degenerate protesters, they’re empty skull idiots.”
Keith now turns his attention to Eric. “Let’s wait for the fuckin law. I’ve been calling those fucking assholes on you Your’re being filmed too asshole. (turning to Eric) Eric says “I know”. Keith continues “Smile and say AH”.
NOTE: Eric does not move. The camera position is steady and yet Keith warns Eric not to get too close to his dog. We get the impression that this is a standard MO that Keith uses quite often as a veiled threat.
Keith: Don’t get too near my dog asshole. You wanna get bit? Did you film that? I’m saying if you get too close he fuckin’ will.
Eric says “I thought this was a public sidewalk.
Keith: I’m gonna see to it that he doesn’t to your little faggot, bitch ass, fuckin, degenerate nigger, lovin’ mother ain’t got shit to fuckin’ do with it.
Eric: If you’re dog is going to start attacking people, maybe you should have your dog put down. You do realize that you are possessed, don’t you?
Keith: You do realize that you’re a fuckin’ butt baby. You’re a half-breed nigger. You’re a half-breed nigger.
Time Line: 7 min 05 sec.
Wayne Webster(Owner of the abortion mill building) interrupts on the loud speaker: “Hey Keith, this asshole just called the cops. I just heard it coming over the scanner. They called the cops because Keith is down here, yelling and screaming at people, and he has a pit bull with him and he’s threatening people. You’re not acting any crazier than those other assholes. “
Keith: I know, I know. Hey just watch them.
Webster: You gotta watch these lying bastards.
Keith: I know, I know, Wayne. I know, buddy. I’ll talk to you later, Wayne. Hey, Wayne, but you saw, right?
NOTE: No response from Wayne. He sees all, hears all when it serves his purpose. Webster alleges that he is concerned for the safety of his business and home. If, indeed, he was why does he not call the police on Keith,who is potentially violent, louder than any demonstrator, racist, a bigot and causes disharmony and upset in the neighborhood. Keith starts to walk away.
Eric: Have a nice day, OK.
Webster: I didn’t see you threaten anybody and I didn’t see your dog threaten anybody. These guys are just pussies.
Keith: Thank you, Wayne.
Keith turns to Eric: Yeah, you hear that? He didn’t see that. Shut the fuck up, you degenerate. And if I fuckin’ hear you it’s gonna be me callin the cops.
Eric: Have a nice day, sir. Take care.
Webster: (on loud speaker-first part is indistinct. He’s talking about the bus stop incident. “He’s suing the city because they wouldn’t let him put a sign on the bus stop. He’s fuckin’ totally nuts.
Keith: I know, he’s a fuckhead. We all know, Wayne, I’ll be callin the law on them.
Eric: Thank you, Wayne, thank you.
Wayne alleges that Kevin had the sidewalk blocked with the sign.
Time Line: 8 min 45 sec.
In the background, Keith is still yelling at the top of his voice. He is out of sight of the camera and can still be heard screaming.
Eric: It appears to me, Wayne, that you’re pretty loud, breaking the noise ordinance.
Keith is still yelling in the background even though he can’t be seen on camera.
Eric: Do you have anything else to say, Wayne?
Kevin (Rilott, other pro-life activist) to Eric: I’m sorry you had to experience this. It’s not pleasant.
Eric: Well, that’s the reality of abortion.
Kevin: He is a manifestation of what is going on inside. A physical reality of the spiritual reality that’s taking place in there. You don’t see it at every abortion clinic, but we do here.
Eric: It’s quite a radical step, isn’t it?
Kevin: It’s not pleasant. He didn’t bat an eye, did he?
Eric: No, he did not. But the nice thing is he got his friend to get…(A mother is going to the abortion mill)
Kevin turns his attention to the mother coming in. Softly calls, “Is there anything we can do to help you today? Every abortion takes the life of a child, a human being. Please, please, don’t do this. We’ll help you-we’ll gladly help you. Is there anything you need? Inside you is a little boy or girl who loves you. It is your child. A little child of God. We don’t have to do this to our children.”
New Video Clip # DSCF 0969
Kevin is on camera, Eric is talking.
Eric: This is Kevin Rilott of Rockford. He’s out here all the time at the Rockford (IL} abortion mill. Kevin, all the incidents we just had with Keith, is this a common occurrence?
Kevin: Yes, it started four to five months ago. He’d start coming by calling the pro-lifers names. We’d always respond with patience and kindness and try not to talk to him, but as you saw earlier like he did with you he gets in your face and starts using the “n” word and mocking God saying things like how good it is these babies are aborted. And he’s going to make sure that each one is aborted. It’s either a case of demonic possession or mental illness or a combination of the two. What you saw today is a common occurrence at this abortion clinic and sadly at other abortion clinics, too.
Eric: I found it particularly disturbing with his racial denigration of black people. It was kind of odd how when Wayne Webster finally spoke up to tell Keith that the police were coming he never said anything to counter this bigotry. It’s almost like he was protecting him (Keith).
Kevin: I had a clinic worker come out a number of years ago and said to me “what are you doing here? The only people that come here are N-word and prostitutes and the world is better off without them.” I think we’ve seen in the news lately when Planned Parenthood, abortion, it’s foundations were based on racism. And those foundations are still in place today. Look at this abortion clinic. It’s in a minority neighborhood. They target minorities. And with Keith (Webster blares on loud speaker missed words).
Webster (on loud speaker, speaking to Eric): “You’re not gonna be too happy when we come to your house.” Mr. Webster is indicating to Eric that Eric’s car is behind the building near Rockford Labor News and Webster is calling out Eric’s license number over the loud speaker. “It’s very easy to find out who you are and where you live.” (Did Mr. Webster violate any laws by doing this?)
Eric: How would you find that out, Wayne? The only way you can find that out is to go through the police department and that’s illegal for them to do those checks for you. So if you were to do that, you and the police officer would be breaking the law. Do you want to comment on that?
Wayne, I found it quite interesting that you called me a pervert for taking pictures of your building, a building where you have everything to do, you provide a place (Wayne interrupts)
Wayne: (indistinct)…you play games with my house. (It should be noted Webster lives at the abortion mill.)
Eric: I think it’s very interesting that you called me a pervert for taking pictures of a place that is akin to Auschwitz. You kill people here, Wayne. I have every right to take pictures. If that’s a perversion, what does that make you? I know, Wayne, that you think you have no chance of salvation, that you might as well stay on the path. Well, you’re wrong, buddy. You have every chance for salvation. You can walk away from this right now. You don’t have to continue on. Look at the friends you have, look at Keith. The man is mentally ill. He’s also possessed. Wayne, you are possessed, too. I think it’s time for to lay down your arms and walk away from this. You know who I am already. You’ve already seen my work.
New Video Clip # DSCF 0970
Opening scene: Three police cars arrive, it is now over one hour from the time the 911 call was placed. This time can be verified through the time stamp on the video clips.
Police officer says Hi, Eric responds.
Kevin starts to explain about Keith. Kevin says “Keith comes by and he has every right to come by, but this time he got right in his (Eric) face and he (Keith) started yelling and screaming, saying your mother’s a N-word and this kind of thing. We’re not saying he can’t be here or anything like that, we just think it’s very dangerous when he gets face to face with us yelling and screaming”.
Police Officer: Is he a black guy or a white guy?
Kevin: He’s a white guy.
Female Police officer: And where did he go?
Kevin: I know he has a lot of problems with you guys.
Time Line: 1 min
At this time Kevin indicates to the police officers that Wayne Webster had warned the assailant, Keith, that the police were coming…….we tried to speak to Keith peacefully. It just makes it a dangerous situation.
Eric: I’m kind of concerned because he (Webster) started telling me where my car was and what my license plate number was. The only way he can do that is through you guys.
Male Police Officer: Anybody can do that.
Eric: No, not in Illinois.
Police Officer: What’s with the camera?
Eric: I’m recording everything that I can because he (Webster) records everything we do. Plus, I have everything with that guy getting in my face which I will probably be sending to you guys.
He (Keith) told me that his dog, I was standing right where I was and I moved like this (cameral motion at this point is exaggerated; during the actual incident you will see no camera movement at all) and he has that pit bull and he said out of nowhere he started blowing up saying “stay away from my dog, he’s gonna bite you”. I have it all recorded, everything.
Police Officer indicates that he’s going to go down and talk to Keith. Talk continues, they get an ID on the assailant, police radio and different people talking. Difficult to pull out one conversation at this point. Time Line 2 min 54 sec.
Kevin says “you need to see the video, it’s very interesting. “
COMMENT: The police walk away and are obviously not interested in facts or the truth. They did not ask to see the video which was offered to them. Had they been sincere about police investigative work they would have taken a look at the racist hate filled video clip. The police are on the scene for three minutes the first time. The three police cars drive down the street and stop in front of the assailant’s house.
New Video Clip # DSCF 0978
Opening scene: Police are back. It’s approximately 8:49 AM.
Eric is asking Wayne Webster( Who has now come outside.) “How are you going to run my license plate, Wayne?”
Female police officer is saying: “ this is what starts all the arguments. He might have said something to you but don’t instigate it by saying anything to him” (or words to that effect, sound is difficult). He says things that you don’t like and that’s why we get called down here because you’re sitting here provoking him to say stuff.
Eric: No, I’m not, I’m just asking him a question.
Female officer: I understand because you want to record it and I’m here and stuff like that and you’re trying to get an answer out of him. What you’re doing is provoking the situation and you’re instigating him.
Eric: Well, I’m asking him a question.
Female Officer: You need to leave him alone. If you don’t feel safe here, you need to leave.
(NOTE: As I see it, rather than protect the pro-life citizens right to free assembly and free speech, her advice is to give up that right and leave. This is not acceptable advice from a police officer. Had they viewed the video as offered to them and arrested Keith as they should have then maybe this situation would not have continued this far.)
Eric: I actually feel safe here now because you guys are here.
Female Officer: Then don’t call us because he’s saying stuff to you that you don’t like.
Eric: Well, isn’t there a noise ordinance around here?
Female Officer: Yes, there is a noise ordinance but it’s more or less involving music.
Eric: What about profanity? Because I have recorded (female officer interrupts)
Officer: “ If you don’t like what you hear, then leave.” She continues in a very perturbed tone, “You know I’m not going to stay here and argue with you all day long. I have better things to be doing, more important things.” She answers Eric’s question, “Yes, there is a noise ordinance. If we hear it than we can cite them for it. If I’m not here to hear it then I can’t file unless somebody calls and complains and when I get here and I hear it then I can write them for it.”
Eric: What about if I have it recorded?
Female officer refuses to answer that question. “You know what, I’m not gonna go into all this.” she said. “You need to prefer charges for disorderly.”
Eric: How can I pursue charges?
Female Officer: You need to file a report.
Eric: How do I file a report?
Female Officer: That’s what we’re doing.
Eric: I want to prefer charges.
Female Officer: For what?
Eric: For noise ordinance violation.
Eric: For profanity. I have everything recorded.
Another officer (male) ridicules Eric. “ You are grown men. If he tells you off, you tell him off, whatever.”
Eric: We don’t use profanity.
Male Officer: Very perturbed tone: “I don’t care, we’re done here.”
Eric: But you have families that live around here that hear them say fuck, ass, and all this other stuff.
While Eric is talking the male and female officer both jump in and the male officer restates “You’re grown men” and it sounds like the female officer says you need to call and complain.
Eric: “I know I’m a grown man but grown men need to stand up and talk about this and start recording people when they do this or other grown men are going to get away with acting like little kids.”
Time Line: 2 min 25 sec.
Male Officer: If we arrested every person who swore in this town-we can’t arrest everybody.
Eric: But that’s one thing. When they’re blaring it over the loud speaker that’s another thing. Last time I called the cops and they came out and he (Webster) stopped doing it. That was the time when there was a bunch of young people out here.
Female Officer: Like I said, if you don’t like being here and you don’t like what you hear, then you know, you can stand here and record me all you want, it doesn’t matter to me.
Eric: Well, I’m going to record you.
Female Officer: Do you know the law for evesdropping? You need to read those.
Webster: You are a peeping tom pervert.
NOTE:(We notice the police officers did not correct Webster for jumping in there with his irresponsible statement.)
Eric: Wayne, why don’t we just stop it? Why do you have to say that stuff over the loud speaker?
Webster: It’s called freedom of speech.
(While pointing to Kevin) Ask him about freedom of speech. He’s suing the city because they won’t let him put his perverted sign on a G—damn bus bench. And you fucking perverts…..
Eric: Why are we perverts?
Webster: Because you’re out here harassing women.
Eric: We’re telling the women we’re here to help them.
Webster: I come out here and people call me a fucking baby killer and shit and then you act like it’s a crime if I call you a dumb cocksucker for being out here fucking with women, you know.
Eric: I think it’s bad that you’re blaring and yelling over the loud speaker.
Webster: It’s called freedom of speech and this is America. I’m a veteran, I served during a war.
Eric: God bless you for that.
Webster: I can say anything I want to. I told you that I wrote down your license number. I was standing there fixing myself a cup of tea. I heard a noise and I looked out and here’s you fucking taking pictures. Then you’re standing there waving at me with the long lens on your camera. It pissed me off because you’re a fucking peeping tom pervert.
Eric: What does that make you? How many cameras do you have here, Wayne? What does that make you?
Webster: Hey, I live here. I have to have security because of cocksuckers like you and your priest come out and drive their cars through my garage door and try to kill me with fucking axes. You and your perverted fucking priests.
Eric: Those "perverted" priests were perverted and they’re not there anymore. That doesn’t make them all perverted. You know that.
Time line: 4min 40 sec.
Exchange continues with Webster and Eric.
Time line: 4:52
Eric asks: Do you agree with what Keith was saying about black people?
Webster: I don’t know what he was saying.
Eric: You heard it, you recorded it. I was here when you told him (Keith) to get out of here. You told him to leave before the police arrived.
Webster: I heard it on the scanner. Shut the fuck up while I’m telling you this. I heard on the scanner that there’s a guy with a pit bull threatening people and yelling and screaming and acting crazy at the abortion clinic. And I got up and looked out the window and I seen them and I said hey, Keith, they’re just telling the police (Webster changes his thoughts, turns and points at Kevin and says): and it was that pervert right there that fucking called it in. Webster continues “He was threatening people with a pit bull. That’s what the woman said on the G—damn scanner.
Webster: I didn’t see him threaten anybody with a pit bull.
Eric: Yeah, he was standing right by me and out of nowhere it was weird and he started yelling Watch out for my dog.
Eric: I am recording still.
Webster: I don’t give a fuck. Let me just tell you something. The state of Illinois eavesdropping is a felony. And if you don’t have my permission to tape my voice I can fuck you over and call my lawyer and do all kinds of shit to you. But you know, I tape everybody all the time and I don’t give a fuck.
Eric: Do I have permission to tape your voice?
Webster: No you don’t. I don’t give anybody permission to do anything. But I’ll tell you this, I’m taping everything.
Webster goes on to say that he has a security system justifying his reasons for taping.
He is saying you can’t be on public property and tape people without their permission. If you’re on your own property and your own home and you have a security system set up that catches them saying something or doing something, then that’s legal.
Eric: do you really live here?
Webster: I have an apartment here, this is my legal address so if I have to I can shoot somebody if they break in here. Of course, if they cross the line I’ll kick their ass.
Eric: Can you physically do something to someone?
Webster: I can kick their ass or break their hands if they resist.
Time Line 7:min 32 sec
Eric: What about when you’re over there letting your dogs take a dump?
(Eric is referring to a piece of public land that Webster allegedly allows his dogs to use to take a dump on, knowing that pro-lifers kneel in that area for prayer.)
Eric: And you’re not picking up the crap that they leave behind?
Webster: You know that’s another fucking lie. We never leave any crap out. We come out and clean it up every fucking day.
Eric: We watched you do it.
Eric and Webster have a short exchange.
Webster: I would (could?) walk out here and let my dog take a crap on your fucking shoes. Because you’re a turd. And you’re a turd because you fucking harass women.
Eric: We’re not harassing them, we’re trying to help them make a better decision.
Webster: Is that what you call yelling at people over the fence?
Meaningless dialog continues for another 30 seconds. End of clip.
Over the years many outstanding pro-life leaders from the black community have tried to ignite concern among their fellow citizens, but the going has been very slow. In fact, it has taken a very long time for the black community to wake up to this most profound of all discriminatory practices against its race, but many are now effectively mobilizing and doing battle with the evil and those who perpetrate it. In fact, on Friday, February 28 the National Black ProLife Coalition will be hosting aNational Day of Mourning to call America’s attention to this tragedy and its consequences. The leadership’s web site explains,
“Tears stream from our eyes because of the destruction of our people!” (Lamentations 3:48)
The “racist” he is referring to is, of course, Margaret Sanger who, in her quest to rid the world of minorities and the poor, focused a great deal of herattention on the black community.
But Hunter is not the only one. Today, among the leadership ranks of the black pro-life community, one name stands out because of outstanding leadership in the human personhood movement as well as his efforts to expose black genocide. That name is Walter Hoye. Walter Hoye is the founder of theCalifornia Civil Rights Foundation, a champion of the preborn and a voice for reason—as evidenced in his blog commentaries. Hoye is constantly challenging black Americans to get involved, and has been a primary promoter of Life Dynamics’ powerful video, Maafa 21—a riveting presentation that focuses attention on black genocide, its implications and the chilling history of man’s inability to confront evil and act to end it. Once you watch this program you will understand that the end of slavery did not mean the end of injustices perpetrated against blacks.
Frankly, words are cheap. Today we encourage you to get involved by organizing a day of protest on February 28 in front of a killing center in your community. Be part of the solution; join the National Day of Mourning. Contact theNational Black Prolife Coalition now and get all the details because black, yellow, brown or white, we have a common enemy which is literally threatening the future of mankind. If we have the will, we can stop it.
REMEMBER: It’s never too late to do the right thing.